PC Demoscene Quotes List
Maintained by Trixter (trixter@mcs.com)
Last modification date:  4/1/97

This is a list of stuff overheard about the demoscene; It's mostly
PC-biased, but there's other platforms in here as well.  Sources
include my friends (live, electronic, and phone conversations),
comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos, and IRC.  Nothing is made up; these are all
actual quotes.  They are not guaranteed to be in any chronological order.

Send all submissions to trixter@mcs.com.  I do not alter the quotes
in any way (with the exception of trimming excess material); hence,
all spelling/grammar/factual mistakes belong to the quote's owner, not me.

This file can be found on the internet at:

	http://www.mcs.net/~trixter/docs/demoquot.txt

Spread this file!  Don't let the scene be forgotten!

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General Quotes:
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"Good code isn't good design, and good design doesn't need good
code." -- Charlatan

"Jezus Christ, are we still having this conversation?" -- Luc
Lodder, on the Amiga vs. PC debate.

"When the finish Head General sees the Russian army coming he just
boots up his PC and loads Second Reality.  Then when all the ruskies
are staring in disbelief, a plane drops a bomb on them." -- Tony,
on how the Finnish demoscene could help in the Finnish army

"The number of channels available with a PC trackers has led to a
generation of lazy mod composers. Instead of using a trick, let's
use another track!" -- Moby / Nooon

"Hello, people!!  Monitor manuals have H-Sync V-Sync tolerance
listings for a _REASON_!!" -- Lance Kalzus, on reports that Xtal
by Complex was blowing up monitors

"Moral:  Never underestimate democoders..." -- PsychoMan, on people
who think democoding is a limited art, in observance of Into The
Shadows

"Personally, I'd be surprised to see someone release something on
CD that was made up of huge, total, game.  Come to think of it,
you could create RPGs that take an average of 1.4yrs to complete,
if you just stretched your mind and put a GAME on the CD instead
of an 'interactive movie'." -- Mr. P (mrp@spartan.pei.edu),
on the future of gaming

"The trick is to forget about writing something good and pull cheese
out of your butt." -- Necros, on how to win the '20-Minutes' compo

"A DOT!!!! A FUCKING DOT!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!" -- Chris Chapin, on
getting his first graphic element working

"I have to figure out what 'music good moose american!' means."
 -- Leviathan, on translating some of the european fan mail he gets

"The life of the coder is that of the hermit, except the hermit
can't make shadebobs." -- Leviathan, on coding

"You're just trying to find texture coordinates, not to be
mathematically correct."  -- Midnight, on how accurate you should
be while coding environment mapping

"People often forget God's contribution to the demo scene.
He coded some brilliant effects, all real-time as well." -- Lew

"As we all know, the audience voted for best productions at Juhla
Pi.  And, as always - audience was stupid." -- Jmagic, on why the
world's first real-time raytracing demo didn't win 1st place at
Juhla Pi

"I will likely burn out in about a week, but what a productive week
it will be!" -- Snowman, on maintaining a demo archive

"...as they were talking about 'high tech hackers' and software
piracy, they were showing close-ups of FastTracker 2 tracking a
song on the screen.  And they kept zooming in and out and stuff.
It was so funny I almost died laughing." -- Daredevil, on a news
promo about "hackers"

"She has pleasent phong shading from behind." -- Snowman, admiring
a woman

"You know you're working too hard when your demo group exchanges
more than 6 emails to each other, trying to settle on a scheme for
capitilizing words.  Lord, the scene has no idea what effort we go
through to make this the best archive in the world." -- Snowman,
on dedication

"Despite people complaining about commercialization, they still
look for jobs after a few years." -- Diablo, on how some 'sceners
are hypocritical regarding sponsors at demo compos

"Yeah lamers!  This is what - STYLE - is all about!" -- ScouT/SuccesS,
commenting on Inside / CNCD

"You'll be able to download the next demo while watching mine." --
Juergen "Rally" Fischer, on how multitasker-friendly his next Amiga
demo will be

"It's a simple fact that most the pc demos are really bad, and the
'let's copy that effect' syndrome is a lot worse than it was in Amiga
scene. Sanity use to have a good slogan : 'If you can't do it better,
why do it ?': -- Esa Kallioniemi

"But, does it really matter whether or not the demoscene comes into
pop-culture? Do we really want people writing demos that don't even
know how to edit their config.sys so they can run DOS demos?" -- Paul
Kalupnieks

"Witness the power of a fully operational 64-bit data path" -- Jeff Lait,
on how MMX's movq can be used for rep movsd-style movement without using
the FPU

"You should be posting this in alt.shoot.me.with.a.blunt.bullet" --
Anonymous, on a "would you be my friend" posting

"Are you for real? If so, why not get rid of all competitions and just
have a single Wild Compo. And then, for the next olympics, we'll get rid
of all the events and just give each athlete 10 minutes to do whatever
he likes to impress a panel of judges." -- Storm, on the decision to
combine PC and Amiga compos

"What in the fuck happened to demos with graphical main menus??
Sorry to PC crews, but those were more fun." -- SG, on Atari demos

"Oh dear.  Looks like the "original" fuzzy psychopath has become a dreary
human being after all... Sorry to hear that, but we all gotta eat... :)"
 -- Lance Kalzus, on how Tran was hired by Apogee

"i don t want to destroy your childhood dreams but the machine you re
sitting in front of is not able to solve EVERY problem you re feeding
into it. this won t be changed by other architectures and processors.
it s just a limitation of finite automatas." -- BOP, on the belief that,
theoretically, it's possible to do *anything* with a PC if you code
well enough

"man, this is getting so deep.
you are touching the One within.
i bet you are stoned all day and night." -- cellux, on Orange's MegaBlast

"if you simply mean 'which demos look cool which you're fucked up?' 
then, to that I'd answer "any that you like when you're sober."  :)" --
Jeremy Williams, when asked which demos are "psychedelic"

"The Belgian scene is not dead. It has just had a bad year." -- Kurt
Haegeman

"sb16 + user.... mmmm...that isn't a real profile of an active member
of the demoscene.  gus + giant asshole (yeah...like me!) is more like
it :-)" -- SCouT/SuccesS

"<FX: Deep breath>
CLOSEUP ON OPEN MOUTH
VO: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<FX: gurgle>
FADEOUT" -- Paul Furber, on the news that Into The Shadows by Triton
was scrapped

"what about organizing a compo at parties 'runs optic nerve on this pc? '
;)" -- access, on how difficult it is to run Optic Nerve

"Anyway... welcome to the scene guys!
Excuse me... I'm an idiot!  
BWWBWBWBWBBWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAARG!" -- SCouT/SuccesS

"1:2 payback that it supports options that'll improve performance on older machines
2:1 that there's at least one effect advertised as being full frame rate on a 486/66
5:1 that there's at least one effect advertised as being full frame rate on a 486/33
10:1 payback that all effects are full framerate on a 486/66
20:1 payback that all effects are full framerate on a 486/33
50:1 payback that all effects are full framerate on a 386/25
100:1 payback that all effects are full framerate on a 286/16
500:1 payback that all effects are full framerate on a 8088/8.1?"
 -- Kneebiter, taking bets on Trixter's next demo

"33e6/(80*50)/10 ... hmm about 800 cycles per pixel or something like
that - Sure you can do just about anything but I can't say that I would
be really impressed with the resolution." -- Jmagic, on Trixter's belief
that anything full-framerate is possible on a 486

"excuse me but... can you avoid posting the infofile every week or so? my
home 28.8k modem thanks you" -- access / pulpe, on a particular party
invite showing up all the time

"(Dreaming again after too much Mountain Dew and Oreos...)" -- Videoman,
after suggesting demo ideas

"The quality is perfect
A 16 by 16 mesh
And inside [since it's hollow]
A piece of welded flesh
1995
was a damn good stir
appearances in demos
proved it popular" -- Mr. P, on how toruses were in way too many 1995 demos

"The demoscene is GLOBAL. Don't EVER forget that. Whoever started first,
or who's better, or which country's got the most coders or whatever,
is IRRELEVANT. Differences don't matter." -- Liam the Lemming, on USA
vs. Europe

"if the song is being played on something perhaps similar to an sb16
which is being software mixed, you still have the problem of creating
huge polyphonic songs which can use over a hundred channels, and the
problem with that is, of course, that your tracking is a) very ineffcient,
since most of the channels can't even be heard amidst the clangor, or b)
your song takes us 85% rastertime on a P6, which is just plain disgusting.
perhaps when the day comes where we can have 128 channels and FFT reverb
and dynamic oscillators simulated through software, then we can use
NNA's, but for now, i don't really see the point. having control over
your music is one of the things which makes tracking so different from
MIDI implementations." -- Necros, on NNAs in Impulse Tracker.

"If I asked someone (else than me) to make music for my demo, I would
require it to be a 6 channel MOD with bpm rate 175, take it or leave
it... This is not disneyland. ;)" -- yzi/fit, on unrealistic demands
on coders (someone thought coding an IT player was "trivial")

"Just ignore Trepaan.. they're one of many elitist Dutch groups who care
about their little clique and disregard what everyone else says." 
 -- Name Withheld, on Trepaan's demo "trepanizing" windows (trashes
windows on the local hard disk)

"Don't you see how STUPID this discussion is?  Do we have to go all the
way to Pangaea before people realize it _does_ _not_ _matter_ ?" 
 -- Kiwidog, on the USA vs. Europe debate

"I'm a shameless man making propaganda for his group's 10th anniversary
:-)" -- grendel, on his group's (byterapers) 10th anniversary

"jmX - hey, you're perfectly welcome to enter your demo in the compo
i'm holding right now in my pants" -- Dennisc

"Why the hell haven't the demogroups uploaded their own productions
into ftp.cdrom.com? Why is it all up to the organizers?" -- Makrus,
Abd'96 Organizing

"You'll have to include a BIT more information than that...  I'm sure I
could draw a million polys per second if they were all two pixels big,
if my routine was hardcoded for their specific co-ordinates, and I
was drawing to RAM instead of video memory..." -- Psychoman, on a poly
drawing benchmark claim

"the csipd 'shot heard round the world' award goes to these two lines"
 -- Dennis Courtney, on Trixter's assumption that all compos should go
back to 486/66's

"Demos are half cheats and half optimization.  You just don't want
anyone to notice." -- Trixter, on whether precalculation is a cheat

"'Cause you see, a Lada is like a 386.  It may not be fast, it may not
look nice, and it may have flaky parts, but it will still run Second
Reality... most of the time." -- Psychoman, on the "Lada" (a cheap
Canadian car)

"[7]Yea, verily and did speak the Amigaphiles [8]"Thou canst not
defile the memory of our [9]Beloved machine the [10]One True Computer,
for it canst out-compute even a Cray."
[11]There was a moments silence and then [12]from the heavens
descended the massed thongs and multitudes of console owners.
[13]"Woe", they cried, "Surely [14]the playstation is the ultimate
beast for it shineth above all other [15]like a star in the night sky
which has been exploded."
[16]And battle was joined.
[17]And thus quitely spake the PC [18]"My Bill be ruler of all"
[19]"The war raging yonder distracteth them, and we shall seize
control of the Heavens and the Earth and all that computes among
them."
[20]And it was so." -- Keith Lucas, on the endless flamewar of "My PC
is better than your PC"

"in JAVA, using even basic OOP features costs some performace, and even
non OOP code will be slower then compared C code, because JAVA:

	- does not allow pointers
	- if you emulate pointers by using arrays, java will perform
	an index check for most array accesses.

this disqualifies java as a high-performace-language (and qualifies it
as high level language).  JAVA was designed for applications that DON'T
push hardware limits.  I think demos should." -- dierk "chaos" ohlerich,
on whether or not Java is worth coding demos in (it's not)

"Ummm so it has 33 channels? Wow what an improvement over 32.  The FM
sounds nice though :) about time we got SuperAdlib or something" 
 -- Daniel Kullmann, on the SBAWE "64"

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Compo/Party Experiences:
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"You Canadians have some wicked beer, they got pictures of devils and
shit right on the label" -- Daredevil, at Naid'96

"Yeah, where else can you find quality beer like 'Maudite' (Death) and 
'Fin de le Monde' (End of the World).  :)" -- Psychoman, in response

"One of the highlights of my NAID trip was trading a Hornet Underground CD
to Necros for a bottle of Molson XXX.  Man, that was cool.  :)" -- Snowman

"Come on...it is easy to find Montreal...the TOUGH part is figuring
out SOUTH FROM NORTH in french 1 second before the RAMP approaches." 
 -- Dan Wright, on locating a compo

"I was at an Orbital gig on Saturday, and all of a sudden a loop of
Timeless started playing on the big screen (it was at a drive-in,
wicked!!!).  Wasn't even a good part of it too, maybe to conceal it's
origin.  Concert was wicked, but the cops busted it around 5am. grr"
 --  applesauce/hfr

"Well, let's just say that if the tpolm intro, which missed the introcompo
deadline and was entered in the democompo, WON THE DAMN THING, i can
only say that you're right." -- nahkamuumi / tpolm, on being asked if
the The Summer Party was a huge failure

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Lamers:
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"Read the fucking FAQ! Trixter isn't making the FAQ for the cat's ass!" 
 -- SCout / SuccesS ("where do I find VGA info?")

"i can't take it any more next time i see a post on this subject I'm
going over to your HOUSE AND I'M GOING TO TEAR YOUR LIVER OUT WITH A
BROKEN PENCIL" -- Rimbo, on another "why doesn't demo xxx support my
xxx sound card")

"If you want to make fun of lamers, please don't post lame code. :-)"
 -- /eye, on someone trying to "help" a lamer

"Shut fuck up you cheeky-ass disrespectful monkey-screwing
demo-coder-wanna-be!  Get the hell off of USENET!  USENET is for kick-ass
phone sex ads, and MAKING MONEY FAST B33YaaTCH!!!  And get the hell off
of IRC too!  IRC is for 0-hour 3l33+-as-fuck wareZZZZZ distribution, and
hot-as-napalm cybeRRRRrrr SeX.  (It says so in the original proposal.. see
RFC31337)" -- George Gruschow

"'is it phong-shaded?' or judging by the topic... er... how big is your phong? :)
'i want to watch mud-wrestling!' 'well i want to watch cyboman II!' 'we'll
just do both!' *slams down bottle of Miller Lite*
'it's time for NAKED CO-ED DEMOCODING!!! take your phong *OUT* of my
torus!'" -- Pascal Q. Porcupine (on cybersex ads in comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos)

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Possible names for Compos:  (Response to "So, now there's at least
Scenario, Skenery, Scenest, and Scenery.  What'll be the next?")
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"Nice, there's still room for Skenario and Skenest.. =)" -- Ville Nummela

"Btw. u forgot Scenus.... =)" -- Gregor Eigner

"Scenema - for all the assholes in the scene .." -- Addict

"Skeven? (A Peter Hajba-only party)
Skemen - For all you Dads in the scene
Scensational - For tabloid-readers
ScentofaWoman - Featuring the demo HooAh by Pacino" -- Rimbo

"What about Scenical and Scen-Fest ?-)" -- KYZER

"Skene Ruulz 97 naturally." -- Antti Piirainen

"Scebbana 97." -- Mikko

"Screwery - For ... well, ehr, let your imagination do the job ;-)"
 -- Sparcus

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The Demoscene:  Past, Present, and Future:
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"Yeah... The Horizon parties...Venlo, Diskswapping, phonecalls from people
from a far country.  Then you had people to look up to...  Groups like
1001 Crew, Horizon, Bones, BlackMail, Ash&Dave....  People like Jeroen Tel
and  JCH....  Calling with a 1200 baud modem to boards...  When cracking
and demo-making went hand in hand...  Real fights at parties! (Tear
gas!!), Anti Demo's...  The stripteases at the Silicon Ltd. Parties....
The PC scene is TOO professional. Everybody makes hi-tech 3d engines,
hoping to sell it to a software company and make big money.  Back then
demo-making was a big adventure. Even coding and typing the text for
a scroller was big fun!  You were doing things that 'normal' people
could not understand.  Remember the feeling when you finished a demo,
and spread it by mail?  Watching endless scrolltexts, hoping you would
be greeted ?" -- SCouT/SuccesS

"...hacking AT&T cards and PBX's to make these expensive calls for
free...cheating with stamps so you could use them over and over and over
again for your swapping.  Opening the borders... what a hack... the guy
that came up with that has deserved my infinite respect.  Same thing with
FLD, FLI... doing stuff with that machine that even the C64 engineers
never thought were possible.  Groups with these incredibly arrogant
attitudes: Censor, Legend you gotta hate them... but now they're gone I
miss them.  Do you remember that demo where you had to rub a wet finger
against the joystick port? Geez..., imagine that on a PC.  Cutting open
disks that were folded double in the mail, stuffing them in your abused
diskdrive... and they'd still work...  Being disappointed if you got
wares that were released more than 3 days ago." -- Deiy/Itsari

"Things change; people grow up, mature, get a girlfriend, end studies,
get a job, buy a home, marry, have babies, see them grow, send them to
university, become grandparents, and sometime they die. Who wants to be
doing the same old thing during all those years?" -- Javier Arevalo

"The old legends leave the scene and the newcomers can't get better
and the scene finally dies. It looks like this for me.  We can't get
better forever. So, finally it has to end somewhere." -- Nutcase/Kinetic
PC/Balance

"Today people have abandoned the word Elite because everyone started
using it, and it lost it's value.  Back then there were the really
heavy RESPECTED Elite guys, who had earned their fame and respect, and
they got the respect they deserved! Today?  "There are no lamers, only
beginners". People don't dare to use the word elite anymore.  And the
newcomers don't care anymore about the heavy guys. Sucks.  Yeah, the
cracking made the demo scene very underground. It has over the years
seperated totally from the modem scene, making it to more like a "art"
scene. The underground atmosphere is gone. I remember reading an interview
with a guy from Crusaders (I think!) in a mag, where he described how
the police ran into the party hall, starting to arrrest people. people
quickly opened their Amiga, hiding their disks INSIDE their computers,
and jumping down from windows onto cars and so on! :) Almost like a movie,
but it was reality - many years ago! The golden years.  I couldn't have
written it better myself! Commercial is the word. And while we are at
it: Big nice "f*ck you" to the assembly organisers for destroying the
party. Is earning money really more important than giving the party
visitors (WHy the HELL are 13 year old game players let inside the party
halls???????) a nice party feeling???" -- Excel/Balance (Amiga) & Dubius
(PC)

"Now that I think of it, underground parties might as well be still
running. But they wouldn't be announced on the internet. :) Maybe it's
just that we don't know about them."  -- Jare

"If you really want to help out the scene you have to go out and do it.
You don't neccesarily have to make the newest productions or even be in
a group, but you have to go out there and make contact with your fellow
addicts and the people in your local scene.  If you are able to help
educate your local scene and introduce them to the lore and excitement
that you remember, they will have go on to share the same attitude as
you have and spread it on to others.  This slowly spreads and all of a
sudden you are surrounded by a thriving scene that once didn't exist.
So go out there, introduce your friends, do some mailswapping, and have
some gatherings.  You wont regret it." -- pyromaniac.beyond

"It's no underground anymore. Demos have became MULTIMEDIA!! :)" 
 -- nutcase

"This kind of things either grows or dies. Can't stay frozen in
time...  especially something like demos which is about innovation and
creativity. These two words are not exactly similar to stagnation."
 -- JARE

"It reminds me of the sound you could here if you turned the 64's SID chip
volume up to 15 and cranked the monitor.  You could hear it think." --
Brad Spencer, on how his PC makes "noise"

"Hmm... maybe i'm just a bit to concerned... anyway as the scene grows
so does the amount of idiots that tend to think they are a part of
it... maybe somebody out there thinks that trepanizing win.com is
normal?" -- Ravian / Jello

"Don't think any other system will ever have same kind of magic with its
plain simpleness and grip.  Maybe that's the reason why we in Byterapers
continue to develop for a machine we used back  10 years ago when we
started whole scenething. :-)" -- grendel

"Nah. New ideas can ALWAYS be invented, the demo scene hasn't reached
any particular limit today that it hadn't reached five years ago. I had
a friend once back when we were doing C64-stuff who was really miserable
about everybody moving to the Amiga (500). He said 'this will be the end
of the demoscene - what's the use of making demos for a machine as fast
as the Amiga? The whole deal about demos is to make impossible things
happen, but with a CPU as fast as the 68000 everything will be easy'
:-)  Creativity and innovativity will always prevail in the end. Phong,
bump and all the other poly-effects are just a phase just like toruses,
glenzvectors, vectorbobs, sinescrollers, rastersplits and bordersprites
were before them. Progress never stops. Actually I have dozens of really
cool ideas that haven't been coded yet and that would require a pretty
fast CPU (A P-150 would do nicely) but I'm too old to do demos now :-)
I'll just have to wait for somebody else to do them. People always do,
in the end."  -- Mats.Knip@hut.fi, http://www.hut.fi/~mknip/

"Creativity.. No, You cannot upgrade your creativity with money, perhaps
that's the biggest problem on PC scene nowadays :)" -- Mysdee/Byterapers

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Demoscene Anagrams:
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"demo scene: code semen, coed semen
demo coder: doom creed
future crew: true curfew, cure wet fur
second reality: iceland oyster, elasitc rodney, destiny oracle,
scary deletion, daisy electron, esoteric dylan, senorita clyde
tracked music: acid scum trek, duck matrices, cute mars dick
orange: a negro, no rage
der piipo: i rip dope
hornet archive: rhetoric haven
arise beyond: soya inbreed, obey sardine, dire soybean
caustic beyond: scab decoy unit, tiny coed scuba, stony acid cube
armitage: image art, image rat, great aim
pyromaniac: panic mayor, piracy oman
freejack: face jerk
dr clone: corn led" -- Armitage/Beyond

"Canine's arse - that was always my favorite." -- Addict

"cncd: cndc, ccdn, ncdc, nccd, ndcc, ndcd, cdnc, cdcn, dncc, dcnc, dccn"
 -- Mikko

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On Microsoft:
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"All I have to say is that I just watched the demo *while* I read this
thread." -- Jeremy Williams, on the Windows95 version of Lasse Reinbong

"I'm hated of microsoft because they introduce shitty standards ! ..Am I
really supposed to use direct3d ?? PLEASE are those the standards ??
Those are not my standards." -- Davide Pasca

"I don't have a problem with Microsoft, but I am frightened of them.
Their own motto is "A computer in every home, and Microsoft software
on every computer."  This is a good slogan.  The only problem is that
Microsoft wants *ONLY* Microsoft software on every computer." -- Trixter

"What are they going to come out with next? `Microsoft Bubblesort?'" --
Kaz Kylheku (in comp.lang.c, but just had to include it here ;-)

"If there is something I _really_ don't want to see, it's a GUS only
Win95 demo :)" - Petteri Kangaslampi (MIDAS Author)

"All in all, people are mostly just tricked into Microsoft's ways.
Sad to say that if they came out with Microsoft Empty Box they'd have
people lining up at the store to buy it, and that they'd also eagerly
send in their coupons for Empty Box Version 2.0 when it came out.
Microsoft lives in a world of trying to dictate what happens, and
trying to get a cut on everything you buy.  They represent capitalism
gone horribly wrong in the hands of people willing to exploit and those
who don't think through enough to realize they are being exploited." --
Anonymous (on purpose)

"An entry in the Programmer's booklist:
Writing Solid Code: Microsoft's Techniques for Developing Bug-Free C Programs
by Stephen Maguire
Pub: Microsoft Press
ISBN: 1-55615-551-4
It's either very thin or out of print I think ;-)" -- /maverick

"excuse me, i have to go wash my computer, for i have exposed it to
filth." -- CJD, after suggesting how to write demos for Win95

"...at my job they laugh at you when you say how you code stuff in dos
:).. We are converting ManxTT SuperBike from the arcades to pc/saturn
etc.. we are getting 640x480 in 40fps (p133) at the moment in windows
with quite a complicated rendering scene (plus gamelogic/sound mixing
etc).. how come demo coders cant even do that in DOS.." -- FireLight

"The fix you suggested kind of works, but you'll get very erroneous
results.  The reason for this is simply that Win95 timer HW emulation
sucks extremely large melons through a very thin steel pipe and returns
completely bogus values when the timer counter is read." -- Petteri,
on why timer syncronization routines don't work in Win95

"My prediction is than in one year, you'll see as many demos under
Windows95 as you see VESA demos now : still a thing for programmers with
plenty of experience.  The first few ones will get plenty of attention,
though." -- Luc-Eric Rousseau, said on July 20th, 1996

"Once in the microsoft's web page there was neat thing saying that
netscape is bad because it provides support for 'confusing array of
operating systems and hardware platforms'. Cant you see where this leads
to?" -- Codex / Paranoids

"Why should I limit myself to one single platform, if theres choice to
support all of them? Choosing DirectX *only* is what I'm against of.
Making your code work with it is fine, but not *only* for it." -- Codex
/ Paranoids

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On Having Sex:
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"Coders do it with a routine." - Otto Chrons
"Coders do it with bugs." -- Trixter
"Trackers do it with rhythm." -- Floss
"Trackers like to slide up & down." -- Charlatan

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You know you've been democoding too long when...
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"...You think 'hey, the phong shading on this toilet seat is really
cool' and move it up and down a few times just to watch the
highlights..." -- Sam

"...You're in a train looking out of the window, and you notice
the high-quality multi-layer parallax scrolling." -- Sam

"...You spend an hour in the tub trying to figure out displacement."
 -- Mr. P (mrp@spartan.pei.edu)

"...You walk along a wall and are impressed that it's not pixelated,
even at close range." -- Dag-Erling Smrgrav

"...You notice how the faucets in bathrooms are envirovment mapped
with a nice metal-looking texture..." -- Jyrki Saarinen

"...You move objects around to make sure the clipping and culling
routines are working." -- Quantum Porcupine

"...You spill or mess up something and the first reaction that come
to mind is 'undo'." -- Stephan

"...You watch the "Mortal Kombat" movie, and during the part where
Liu Kang does a flip off a wall, you absent-mindedly say, 'I wonder
if that was calculated real-time.'" --  Dominion Arcana

"...You start cooking a meal and you say 'I wonder how I can optimize
this steak'..." -- Kiwidog

"...you notice during your pregnant wife's ultrasound scan that the
display is running at 25 fps." -- Paul Furber
